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....that was sadder than I expected ;_____________;








I never realized how much I came to like Kageyama until this episode. That was harsh, specially because... it didn't have to end like that, at all. If only he hadn't taken those necklaces.

And then Yaguruma... I mean, it's pretty obvious that that's what Kageyama wanted, and finally...





"Aibou, we're together eternally. Let's go catch that light that exists only for us."




So bittersweet. ;___________________________;



Kind of SxSy. In reverse, I mean, if Seishirou HAD killed Subaru... except Yaguruma really isn't very Seishirou-y, but the situation, the feel of it, it reminds me a lot of the aftermath at Rainbow Bridge.





Hide blew me away in this ep. Just... that bit where he tightens his jaw, just before he henshins, because he's not going to show much more than that, but it's enough to convey VOLUMES about Yaguruma's feelings.






ETA: [livejournal.com profile] dimmie, I'm pretty sure this is you were talking about today, about something you wanted to say but couldn't yet? :3

Date: 2009-02-15 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dimmie.livejournal.com
Yesssss this. It drives me crazy how people don't understand why Yaguruma acts the way he does towards Kageyama, because THIS. Even to the very end, Yaguruma never wanted to destroy Kageyama - he made Kageyama see he'd already destroyed himself, but as soon as Kageyama realized that, Yaguruma took back the role he had before in their relationship, consciously or not.

And the whole thing with not seeking false lights was always about protecting the little monster he still felt responsible for creating, not torturing him for revenge. Of all the things Yaguruma was, he never managed to be uncaring. The tragedy was that the more he tried to save Kageyama from completely losing himself, the more he pushed them both over towards their end.

Date: 2009-02-15 04:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gekidasa.livejournal.com
Yes, basically, that. You can find so many examples that Yaguruma never stopped caring, about Kageyama in particular, obviously, but also in general. I mean, after the Mamiya Reina thing, when they walk off together and Yaguruma steps on the flower, it was a very purposeful action, he made a point of doing it, because he can't QUITE give up himself.

I do believe he had already found peace in his own nohilism though, and that's what he tried to show Kageyama.




And to pick up again what actually happened to Yaguruma, upon first watching my thought was that only Yaguruma attacked, but yes, OBVIOUSLY he was going to die, so what I thought, was that we were meant to understand that he was going to kill himself, but you're right, it makes perfect sense that they attacked each other.

Again like a certain other tragic couple.

Date: 2009-02-15 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dimmie.livejournal.com
it makes perfect sense that they attacked each other

If nothing else, at least because otherwise it makes no sense to have Kageyama henshin in that scene. If Kageyama planned to just let himself be killed, he wouldn't have to henshin, he'd just stand there in human form and take a rider kick to the head. I think it was more a time constraint than anything else, we only saw Yaguruma's attack, but obviously there was more material shot to that scene that wasn't shown because the last two episodes were already rushed enough as they were.

Taking it to a story level, I'm convinced Kageyama henshined because he wanted to die but he had every intention of dying like a man, even if dying was the only thing he did right in life. And possibly he already knew that by breaking their chain, the last thing they both had, he was going to break Yaguruma himself too. So if their time was up, they better die the same way they lived - partners and rivals to the end.

(obviously KickHopper is way stronger than PunchHopper, so in the missing footage we'll never see there would probably be Yaguruma secretly letting himself get hit enough times/hard enough to be sure he was done for before finishing Kageyama, so he could die with his partner but wouldn't have to actually off himself after the fight - THAT I don't see Yaguruma doing)

Date: 2009-02-15 05:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] gekidasa.livejournal.com
(obviously KickHopper is way stronger than PunchHopper, so in the missing footage we'll never see there would probably be Yaguruma secretly letting himself get hit enough times/hard enough to be sure he was done for before finishing Kageyama, so he could die with his partner but wouldn't have to actually off himself after the fight - THAT I don't see Yaguruma doing)

Yeah, that's why my first reaction was 'What happens to Yaguruma!" because suicide doesn't really seme like his thing, and if he was already dying it makes much more sense.


but he had every intention of dying like a man, even if dying was the only thing he did right in life.

Unlike how he WOULD have died if Yaguruma hadn't come and saved his ass. So in a way, that's what Yaguruma did, saved him from dying without any sort of honor, alone like a dog, and instead gave him a little while of feeling accepted and like he had a place in the world with yaguruma, and when it was time, Kageyama died "like a man". So at least he could give him that.
Edited Date: 2009-02-15 05:13 am (UTC)