So.

[gekidasa]

I finished Ryuki.

Comments

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this is actually what I meant when you brought up that possibility and I said "I'm pretty sure that won't happen, because of something I can't mention now". What I meant was, I'm pretty sure that won't happen, because Ryuki already been there, done that. :D

And ALSO, this is what I wanted to say from the very beginning of Decade, about the reasons I never wanted the returning Riders to be the original guys, neither the alternates, nor the ones in the last episode. Because the "originals" coming back to be in continuity with Decade ruins so many good endings that need to just be left alone - including Kabuto's and Faiz's and Blade's, but most of all, Ryuki's. There's no fanservice in the world that'll make me want Shinji back in the Ryuki suit, ruining his second chance at a life not made of pain on top of more pain, a life just being his obliviously happy moron self without ever having to take on the burden of being a Rider on his shoulders again.

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

..So pretty much my comments today can be summed up with "WHAT DIMMIE SAID" :D/


Much as the "happy" ending is cruel in its own way... it does leave open a window for personal canon and fic that others close. Thinking mainly of Hoppers here, and how they had such a short window of time, and that necessarily cuts down on the amount of exploring one can do and remain within the dark corners of canon. In this case, yeah, Shinji and Ren don't know each other anymore, they don't know what they were to each other, and yes, without the Rider battle their relationship will likely never be as deep or as close as it was, but nothing say they can't follow an alternate path and end up being bros for life all the same.

And there's Kitaoka, and... given that it's the Rider battle that was removed, it means that he's still got just that one year to live, but I hope this time around he does get together with Reiko in time. ;__;

...Why the heck isn't Asakura in prison though?





Also, Ren and Shinji may be my favorite Rider friendship. (Meaning bros for life type of relationship, like Tendou and Kagami, or Tsukasa and Yusuke, not relationships like the Hoppers' or Kitaoka and Goro-chan's, because there were other elements there, whether or not one slashes them).

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, my tinhat makes good use of the "reset button means anything goes" theory. As I said on that Top 5s meme where you asked about my ship moments, in my personal canon, after reset button Shinji totally meets Miho again anyway and has his happily ever. :D

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

Shinji DESERVES happily ever after. I know I talked mostly about Kitaoka, but I do adore Shinji, he's such a sweetie. ;___;

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

He does! He deserves a happy ending, and he deserves delicious BOOBIES in it! D:

Too bad Hajime is tapping that now, poor rejected Shinji. T_T

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

...That would be a really amusing fic, actually. :D

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

No it wouldn't actually, because Amane would be bitching about it for the rest of EVER. And boy, that little vixen can bitch. D:

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

So this whole discussion abotu reset buttons and the alternate!original riders in Decade has me thinking about the Hoppers in Decade and how it's kind of valid to assume this is a world where they survived \:D/

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

This is a world where they don't exist, sensei. :D

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

*kicks you* >:

I know that. I'm talkign about the Hoppers that show up in Kuuga world in Decade.

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

Ah, okay. I still don't want them to have a happy ending, though. :D It's not the Hoppers I know and love if they have a happily ever after. :D;;

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but dont' you sometimes wish they'd at leasst had more time?

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

....not really. I'm really ok with their story as it is. It just feels right, like it started in the right place, and ended in the right place. They never had time on their side, to me it feels like the time they had together between ZECT and Hopperdom was already more than they bargained for. The whole tragedy of their relationship (as partners, brothers, friends, whatever) is that they were never meant to be happy on each other's side, and that's what I love about them. Not the what could have been, but what actually was.

That's just me, but that's how I see them. :D;

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

Well, so am I, but that doesn't mean I can't want movieverse!Yaguruma/Kageyama, for instance. I just don't see how that, or saying, well, for today I'll think about what might have happened undermines their actual story, nor does it mean I don't think their story is great as it is.

But fine, I get it, I'll shut up about it. :D/

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

I never said it did undermine anything, for the record. :D I said that's how I see them, but I never said my view is the only right one. :Dv

[gekidasa.livejournal.com]

I guess sometimes it (wrongly) feels a little like that, probably because you'd set down your preferences or ideas about all of these characters long before I watched, so sometimes it's a little like running into a wall, if I'm just bouncing ideas around, you know?

I'm sorry I get a little defensive about it, it's just that I'm used to having someone with whom to do what you've already done with all these characters. Anyway, not your fault, sorry about that.♡


Doesn't Ryuki have a HBV?

[dimmie.livejournal.com]

It does, but it's super lame and not worth your time unless you really want the completionist tour. It's about Agito-with-another-voice coming out of nowhere to team up with Ryuki against a mirror monster, and then Knight, Zolda and Ouja show up and are all hippy trippy kumbayah "let's hold hands and be ~nakama~ y'all", and they attack together like a sentai team from the wrong side of hell... it's just very very bad. :D;;